I often think as I listen to all these people that sit and argue about 9/11 and who did what and it was either gravity or an inside job.

I will tell you, if it was an inside job, a black op, such as many of those carried out. If it was, if it was the highest part of the most secret parts of the United States Government, military, alphabet agencies, and so forth acting on their own to remotely control aircraft, or having pilots actually flying those planes or other people flying those planes into the buildings.

Let me ask one question, and this is the one that I love, is proof. You can prove there was a crime scene on 9/11, and planes flew into those buildings. You can prove that people died. You can prove the buildings fell, and you can prove a lot of things.

But what can not be proven is a conspiracy in the highest levels of government, what can not be proven is explosives brought down those buildings.

Eye witness testimony 4-5 years later is not really accurate, as can be shown in The Pentacon where one witness says he is at one place in the Citgo gas station but really in another. At one of the front, pump instead of the back pump. But he does remember when asked. I don't see conspiracy in this movie, as I recall it.

Recalling your story 5 years later with so much media and controversy and getting it correct is at best ambiguous. I am not saying these people lied, what I am saying is time does play tricks on the memory, and media influence plays tricks on the memory.

The people were doing the news that morning would probably recall things differently, as well as the people that watched it. Time is a major factor in recalling your memories, like it only happened yesterday, but I tell you if you wrote down what happened so many years ago, and recalled it, and then read what your wrote it would be different. But then again going back and re-reading what you wrote is also a level of self-indoctrination otherwise known as brainwashing.  

We listen to what is said in loose change, but there are also a lot of truths omitted in that as well, we listen to so many people that say they are an expert without being one. We listen to other people that saw the buildings collapse and take that as gospel, and we take what the passerby says to be the truth.

Let me say this, if there was a conspiracy, you and I assure you are not going to figure it out completely. I like to say people that know the truth, know there is no conspiracy.

The conspiracy is in not knowing and a lot of people seem to think there was a conspiracy and others say there was not one.

There are two sides to all this right???  I have to say, dead wrong.

Let's look at facts, the real facts, not surmised facts by someone that is a film making student, using artistic license to sell his movie.

When you look at the one side, and that's the truth, you seem to find out what is going on. Ignore the hapless arguments by those that smoke their drugs, and suffer from paranoia.

Ignore the arguments by those that can not provide evidence and proof. Ignore the lies and the assumptions and suppositions. Separate the crap from the truth. That is the biggest problem with the “truth movement” they want to say it was an inside job without looking at science.

In all investigations you have to find one thing, and that's the truth. Evidence never lies, only the interpretation of that evidence can be skewed to what ever truth the person is telling their perception of that evidence.

Perception and Reception of information, as well as facts in this case is overwhelming, and too much for one person to absorb and completely understand. The magnitude of information is staggering, and to understand it all is too much.

The truth movement would have you believe it was an inside job, and I say find the witnesses and people involved and the truth to prove that theory, find the proof, and find the people that are willing to talk. People are always willing to talk it is a fact of life.

I can not firmly believe one way or another that it was a terrorist attack or a staged event. If this was a staged event, then they had to have their own people in place either controlling the planes or otherwise. If this was a staged event, then let me ask one thing, where would you control those airplanes from to make sure they flew into those buildings with perfect precision??

In many of these movies we always see one side of building 7; we never see the other side. I like to call it the picturesque side of the building; the side that everyone can believe looks perfect.

What I am saying is conspiracy theorists use their logical deduction to prove a conspiracy without using science and facts and knowledge of science or being educated in such fields. They provide people that are also known in the conspiracy group, as valid resources and knowledgeable to talk about something as fact without proof.

I have listened to enough conspiracy people to know how they think. They huddle in their group and look to each other for answers and when they find the best one, which has to be the truth.

Meanwhile the rest of us listening to the television being told what the truth is; because, we know for a fact that the news does their research and does not grab the story from the newswire and repeat it verbatim back to us.

I have watched a lot of television, and I can say for a fact that being without it for a while is actually good for you.

What I am looking for is proof based on math, which is based on factual numbers on why those buildings fell in the first place. Let us use actual mathematical computations, based on actual data available, for the plane itself, the building design, where and how the plain hit the buildings, the instant damage done on impact.

I guess you see what I am saying, eliminate all the facts first, and if the answer is not there, then use theory.

Ockham's Razor is the principle proposed by William of Ockham in the fourteenth century: ``Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate'', which translates as ``entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily'' Or in plain English "All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one."

But let us add another to all of this, Hanlon's Razor: ``Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity''. 

Let us look at all the stupidity that happened the day of 9/11, let us look at the Flight Traffic Controllers that did not have clue what to do, there was procedure right, of some kind?

There was procedures, and there were rules, but where these rules in place or did people not know what to do?

Many of these conspiracy movies talk about planes that were flown way out into the southern USA. What they don't talk about is what was their standard base assignment, flight assignments, assignment roster, preplanned maneuvers, which happened to be on that day. But it's all implied that it was setup in the highest levels of government to change plans and set this up from the beginning. There may be proof, but we need a whistle blower to be protected that will tell the truth sure protected my ass. These people have more power and the knowledge of who is who and what is what to deal with people that might talk or will talk.

People don't understand that in the military you are given a direct order you follow it without question. Let me explain what that means, reduction in rank, prison time, dishonorable discharge, no pension, etc. Let's think about this carefully, a reduction in rank means less salary, which means you, might not be able to pay your bills. Prison time usually follows a trial, and disobeying a direct order of a superior officer, is not something people are willing to do, knowing the rules are given to them before hand to follow.

What I am saying is people follow orders because that's the rules, regardless of a gut feeling or knowing that they should not do it, but they do. Failure to follow the orders of a superior officer is not something that is taken lightly.

So back to that little conspiracy, those planes were not in position, not because the pilots felt like it, but because they followed orders. And in loose change they say the planes should have been elsewhere up north near their base. Let's look at that little fact again as stated above. None of the film makers know or even have a clue what the military is about and what failure to follow an order really means. You can not just choose not to follow an order without violating the UCMJ.

Another conspiracy is that the buildings were brought down by explosives, in a controlled demolition ask experts that know what the rubble looks like after a proper demolition, don't just create supposition based on hearsay evidence.

All I ask is people to think logically and not jump into one theory or another unless they can back it up by fact.

On 9/11 there was confusion among those that were supposed to know what to do, why was there not?? That's simple; there was no rule in place saying which agency took control of the situation. No one knew which agency should take the lead in this situation.

Was it NORAD, the Whitehouse, FAA, Military Command, which group here had the lead, who had seniority, who was in charge?? Do you know? And If you do, please enlighten me, because I am interested in facts, not supposition.

What I am looking for is simple facts, to put together a factual time line of events of that day. The: who, what, when, where, why, and How?? Yes those questions I was taught in school which is the basis of investigations.

Provide facts and provide truth, and provide the data and all sources, no hidden or private sources, about that day.

There are people that know what happened that day and are not talking under national security rules. Remember what I said about following orders? These people can only talk after their oath has expired and their national security authorization has expired and after they can not provide proof. They can talk, but they don't because they take that oath as serious as it gets, no joking in what I say. I have asked a few people about what it means when they take that oath of secrecy.

People that are not in the military do not get it when the people in the military are given a direct order. That order stands until it is rescinded. It is that simple.

Those conspiracy theorists have to learn all the rules that government organizations have to follow, before they can say it's a conspiracy but they don't.

But there is no conspiracy if you are in the know. Conspiracy as defined: A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design. Please note the words as if. If you know the truth it's no longer sinister or is it??

People are so afraid; I say stop watching television and read. Learn your history and understand the present. History only repeats itself when we do not learn from the past.

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